The Uncomfortable Talks by Bill Skiles Talk Number 21 Ascension Into The Soul Realm, Part I
This is June 30th about 11:30, 2013, and I had an idea for a talk today and was going to cover some of the principles of spiritual healing, because it seems that nobody likes to practice or study the nature of error and practice impersonalization and nothingization. It seems they’d rather just concentrate on the beauty of God. The problem is that according to Joel if you don’t have the other half, you won’t experience the full realization. But I was told “no” and directed to cover the Introduction in this book called Man Was Not Born to Cry by Joel Goldsmith, and the Introduction is called Awake. So that’s what we’re gonna do, because I do what I’m directed. And let us have a moment of silence, a few moments if possible. Enter into a state of receptivity to your Soul and to the Soul realm, because that’s what we’re going to be talking about. Let’s take that moment now.
How many of you I wonder are familiar with the Soul realm? I noticed the other day because I was reading, studying, taking one sentence at a time from The New Horizon, that chapter in The Infinite Way, and I noticed that – well, I’ll read it to you and tell you what I noticed. It says:
The first glimpse into the heaven of here and now is the beginning of the ascension for us. This ascension is understood now as a rising above the conditions and experiences of “this world,” and we behold the “many mansions” prepared for us in spiritual Consciousness – in the awareness of Reality.
Well, that all sounds logical. If you remember in Beyond Words and Thoughts, Joel told us the ascension is always the same, rising above the mind. Rising above the mind. And he hints in many of these books and in many of his talks, he hints at the fact that the world mind – well, in fact, I’ll give you one right now. Hang on. Let me get it. It’s in The Art of Spiritual Healing. Let me get that and I’ll have it. In this chapter What Did Hinder You he says:
For years after I … learned to recognize all forms of sin, disease, lack, limitation, [and] depression … are hypnotism, the puzzle was to discover how to break that hypnotism … .
It was then that I discovered [the] … scriptural passage … “the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands.” … The weapon against error – our offense and defense – is something that is neither physical nor mental [not by might nor by power] … no action, no words, no thoughts – only the awareness of God.
Now pay attention to that word “awareness.”
As you carry this out in practice, watching the stone being formed in and of your consciousness while you stand to one side as a witness or a beholder, eventually a state of peace will come. [And] … you will catch a glimpse of God as Is not a power … just God is. … All problems fade out in proportion as you develop this ability to be quiet, to be silent, to behold, and to witness divine harmony unfold …
And finally, the point that I was getting to:
… when the human mind is not functioning,
This is the principle behind the process.
… when the human mind is not functioning, there is no more hypnotism. When you are not thinking thoughts or words, when you are in a stillness, the human mind is stopped – the hypnotism is gone. [And] When you experience this, you will feel something which transcends the human dimension … .
… when the human mind is not functioning, there is no more hypnotism. … the human mind is stopped – the hypnotism is gone.
Well then the hypnotism is the human mind! Right? Right!
And so he says in Beyond Words and Thoughts, that:
The ascension into the kingdom of heaven here and now, or into the realm of Soul, is always the same: rising above the human mind.
Do you see? So now going back to The Infinite Way, reading what we just read, he says:
The first glimpse into the heaven of here and now …
Or into the Soul realm, into your very Soul, into God, because God and your Soul are one.
The first glimpse into the heaven of here and now is the beginning of the ascension for [you] … we behold … “many mansions” prepared for us in … the awareness of … Reality.
So in The Art of Spiritual Healing he says that the whole principle is rising above the mind into an awareness of something not human. And in The Infinite Way, in The New Horizon he says that the awareness of the Soul-realm is the first glimpse into heaven, and that takes place in the awareness of Reality. So what are we saying? We’re saying that the entire spiritual path is nothing more than an inner transformation from mind to Soul. From the mind – the sense-mind, the three-dimensional world that is in the mind – to the realm of Soul where your incorporeal Self is, and so that’s where the spiritual path takes place. There’s no path out here. It’s a transformation. “… be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind …” And trading that human mind for the mind which was in Christ Jesus, you are transformed. All of this is pointing out that it’s an inner realization of oneness, so you’re rising in awareness.
Now getting back to what I was directed. This book, Man Was Not Born to Cry, before the first chapter is an Introduction, and he titled it Awake. So we’ll look at some points in this which should suggest to you that you’re making a transformation within. You’re not going anywhere. The kingdom of heaven is not a place. The kingdom of heaven is at hand right now, closer than breathing. But your unawareness of it keeps you in the human mind, which is a human sense of existence, or the universal dream. You step out of that sometimes in meditation into an awareness of the Soul-realm and you’re making a transition from that human mind. You are ascending up into Soul awareness, and that takes place when you step out of that human mind within yourself. All right. Awake:
When you first come to [the] … spiritual study, it is only because some circumstance or condition of your life is in need of adjustment.
Yes, most of us found this because we were unsatisfied. There was a lack or a limitation of some sort which pushed us and drove us to find an answer. In my case I couldn’t find it in organized religion. I tried, but I couldn’t make it. I sat there and I became angry at the preachers and I wanted to tell them to stop scaring people, and so I just could never be comfortable and find it there. But it pushes us on until we begin to look for a spiritual answer. If we are inclined towards metaphysics, perhaps you started the same way I did with Emmet Fox or Walter C. Lanyon or some of the other metaphysical people. Perhaps some Unity writings, Charles and Myrtle Fillmore, if that’s their names – I can’t remember it’s been so long. But at any rate, you started with some metaphysics. Maybe you went right into Christian Science. Eventually, however, the mental approach seemed to not be quite enough, and we were driven, and eventually maybe we all found The Infinite Way and Joel’s writings or Herb’s talks, and so here we are. He says:
During your spiritual study, you [found] … some degree of improvement taking place in your life, but I can assure you … you never will find all that you are seeking humanly, because it does not lie within the nature of a spiritual teaching to give you all the human good things you think you would like. In some avenues of your life, you will experience improved health, increased supply, [and other forms] … of human happiness, but you will not find the completeness … you expected. [Because] About the time you actually realize that it never is going to happen [for you], you will likewise perceive the reason, which is that you have been praying amiss. You have been trying to patch up or improve this human existence, and that is not the function of any spiritual message.
It is very clear from the message of every mystic … the object of the spiritual path is that we may “die” to the human experience and be “reborn” of the Spirit [or of the Soul realm]. We learn that the spiritual kingdom … is not of “this world,” … even [a] healthy, wealthy, … [or] wise [world].
On the mystical path, you learn that the goal of life is not the metaphysical goal of better health, [or] a … beautiful home, [or an] … expensive automobile, [or] … a satisfying companion …: the goal is releasing the Soul from the tomb of human existence, [and] more especially [from] the tomb of the human mind.
So there you have it. We came to metaphysics. We practiced the principles. We saw improvement in our life and yet, we went on and something happened or the principles seemed to stop working. We searched deeper and we find out that it never was about improving the human scene. The spiritual path is not there so you can have better companionship, a larger home, an increased supply, or better health. The spiritual path is there so that you can die to wanting any of these, so that you can die out of the human mind and the dream universe of two and begin to launch out into the deep into the Soul realm and let down your nets there.
Of course, you’ll find that Omnipresence, omnipresent Soul includes in it everything you need. Not necessarily everything the mind wants, but everything you need is provided abundantly with 12 baskets full to share – but that only when you are no longer seeking that. So we find ourselves finally ready to practice what the Master told us: Seek ye first the kingdom or the Soul realm, and maybe we are all standing there in this class, ready at last to seek the Soul realm, to seek to ascend into that Soul realm, which is not a place or even a kingdom or a realm, but an awareness in Reality.
And so we are trading thoughts for awareness. We are trading mind for Soul. We are trading the letter for Spirit. And so he says:
Every human being is in prison, the prison of the mind and the body, and during the normal human lifetime of an individual, he never gets outside of that prison.
There are some, however – explorers, artists, … adventurers – who do try to widen their horizons physically, mentally, and artistically, but only occasionally have there been one or two or three who wanted to explore the realm of the Soul.
The realm of the Soul is God awareness, or awareness of God, for God and the Soul are one.
Think of [that] … word “Soul” for a moment [he says] and see how little you know about it, and … remember … the rest of the world knows [even] less than you do, because you have discovered a great deal about [it] … in the writings … [and in the recordings]. The knowledge of the Soul, the life of the Soul, the wider horizon [of the Soul] … is the greatest experience that can come to any individual.
The Soul is imprisoned in the tomb that we call … human experience, the tomb of the mind and [the] body, and if we are to experience the Soul, we have to break through the limitations of … body and … mind. [And] This, the Master called taking no thought for our life, but seeking the kingdom of God, the realm of God, the Soul.
And there he just slips it in there so quietly you – you almost don’t notice. He says:
This, the Master called taking no thought …, but seeking the kingdom … [or] the realm of God, the Soul. [God, the Soul].
So if you’re wondering where God is, you have no more need to wonder, because he spells it out right there – God, the Soul. God and the Soul are One. Your Soul is God. God is your Soul. And if the – as we know, the mind and the body are concepts, the dream images, the dream world, the dream mind – then when you take no thought you, your reality, your Soul, your God Self – begins to make itself aware, begins to express in your awareness. You become aware of the I of you, and that’s the whole point of this.
So, let us look at this because I’m sure that most of us pass this by also. This is from the Hotel Wellington, and Joel wrote it. It’s a copy of what he wrote by hand on June 13th of 1960 at 7:00 p.m. Well, that was just a little while ago, but the same month we’re in now, only it was what – 53 years ago, something like that? Was it 53? Sixty plus 53 – is that 2013? Yes, it is. Okay. So it’s 53 years ago he sat in a hotel in early evening in England, or no – where is this? New York! Hotel Wellington, New York. And he wrote this. This was just before he was giving a class. Very important, and so I’ll read it to you.
At first he put: There are two secrets the world does not know, but then he overwrote that. He wrote on top of that: There are four secrets the world does not know, and when you read this he actually has one, two, three, four, five secrets the world does not know. So we’ll read what he wrote here. There are four secrets the world does not know. The reason why I’m reading this to you is because it explains the need to ascend into that Soul realm and the method to do so, and most people don’t want to do this. As I said at the beginning, we don’t want to study the nature of error even if we’re told that that’s the way to ascend! But we are very plainly!
Remember in the Kailua study series, chapter eight, which explains the secret of healing or the nature of error. He says at the end of that chapter, the end of that talk – You can throw out every other talk, every other chapter, and just stick to this one, and when you learn the principles you will have the secret of how to ascend, [or in his case, how to heal – in the case of that chapter, how to heal]. The ascension out of humanhood and into the Soul realm is the same as the secret to healing. They are one. And this will explain that. So:
There are four secrets that the world does not know.
- All evil has its rise in the universal belief in two powers, this belief operating as a universal, mental malpractice. This we sum up as the activity of the carnal mind or mortal mind, originally called devil or Satan.
Now that’s the first secret. What is it, first secret? Everything you see that appears evil and everything you see that appears good in the human scene is a universal mental malpractice. What does that mean? What does that mean to you – universal mental malpractice? Because he says you must understand this in order to ascend into the Soul realm. Well, to me it means there’s a universal dream, and that wherever you find yourself in this universe, that dream is pumping mental malpractice out. In other words, images, beliefs, concepts – always the belief in two powers, the belief in two. In the Kailua study series he says two selves, two universes, two activities, two beings, two minds. Always two.
And so it’s a universal mental malpractice always going on like a television station being broadcast constantly, and if you are in the human mind – what did he say in The Art of Spiritual Healing just now – that is the hypnotism. And so if you are just in a human mind and a human body walking around and occasionally you have a moment of prayer, then you go back to being a human mind and a human body, then you are, well – you’re hypnotized, aren’t you? You’re in the control of mortal mind or carnal mind. So that’s the first thing to understand if you want to be free. If you want to enter the Soul realm, the first thing is: All evil has its rise in the universal belief in two powers, this belief operating as a universal mental malpractice. This we sum up as the activity of carnal or mortal mind, originally called devil or Satan. Because it’s a temptation for you to believe you’re human. That your name is Mary or Bill or Tim or Jack or Susan or Martha or Betty, and it’s not – or Laurie. That’s not your name. It’s the name given to this mental image, this mental malpractice, this universal belief in a separate self, or a personal sense of self. That’s the name given to the dream person. But you want to ascend and feel and know your own omnipresence, your own Soul. So he says that’s the first thing. That’s the first secret.
- The second secret is that this mental malpractice has no power in and of itself beyond that of tempter, but it operates as power where not known and understood.
Now that’s the second secret. This mental malpractice pumping itself into your mind has no power behind it other than being a temptation for you to accept, but it looks, it smells, it tastes, it touches like power when you are not aware, when you are asleep. Hence, the name of the chapter Awake. You see that? It operates as power. Elsewhere he said that he used to say that the belief in two powers – this carnal mind, this mortal mind – was without power. But he said that’s an incomplete statement. He said, “I should have said it’s without power in the conscious awareness or in the presence of Christ.” And so when you have the awareness of your Soul – you’re standing in that awareness – then, then, and then only is this mental malpractice – does it have no power. Only when you’re standing in that awareness. If you’re in the human mind, as we read in The Art of Spiritual Healing, then it operates as power, but it’s a little worse than that. Listen as he continues:
- The third secret: Furthermore, the human scene, good or evil, is the product of this universal malpractice or carnal mind.
And so whether you’re looking out there and seeing your beautiful sunset or your cute little grandchild or your beautiful spouse or whether you’re looking and seeing a burglar or diseased tree in your yard or the corpse of a dog that was run over in the street or whether you’re seeing cancer eat away at your body – both of those are made from the same fabric. Remember he says in the Kailua study series: It’s vital that you see that this is a fabric and don’t treat the disease, but treat the overall fabric. It’s because he’s trying to get you to awaken. So number three is the human scene, good or evil, is the product of this mental malpractice which is being pumped into your human mind. We’re like the walking dead, aren’t we, listening to this and responding like a puppet on a string? Doesn’t that make you uncomfortable? It makes me uncomfortable. When I hear that and I see that I want to awaken. So let’s read number three. Furthermore, the human scene, good or evil, is the product of this universal malpractice or carnal mind [and he has this underlined] and has no contact with God and is not under the law of God.
All right. Why do bad things happen to good people? That should answer it right there. I studied so hard. I know this stuff backwards and forwards. You can give me a written test. I will pass it – a 100, 99 at the worst – but I will pass it 100. Give me that written test. I know these answers! Yes, you know these answers, but do you have an awareness of Soul? Are you ascending out of the mind that knows these answers into an awareness of Soul? Because if you aren’t, then your existence and your life has no contact with God and is not under the law of God. Ouch! Wow, who wants to hear that! I call these talks uncomfortable for a reason.
- And number four: Harmony of a permanent nature … [now listen to this, because he says] can only be attained …[and that means there’s one way] Harmony of a permanent nature can only be attained as the spiritual Self is realized through impersonalization and nothingizing. Impersonalizing and nothingizing of the carnal mind. [I’m gonna read that again because I tripped over that].
Harmony of a permanent nature can only be attained as the spiritual Self is realized through impersonalization and nothingizing of the carnal mind.
That’s what he wrote. What does that mean? Why did I bring that up at all? Because he says harmony of being can only be attained as your spiritual Self or your Soul is realized or you become aware of your Soul or the Soul realm through impersonalization and nothingizing of the carnal mind. You see now why it’s so important? He says in the Kailua study series in that chapter: [The Healing Principle], If you only know the beauty and joy and the experience of mystics of oneness with God, communing with God, but you don’t know the second half, then you will have very limited experiences of harmony. You may have communion with God in your meditation and come out of it and then experience lack and limitation. Why? Because you’re in the dream of two because you believe that inside yourself you can commune with a presence and then when you open your eyes you’re back to this human life. You believe in two, the dream of two.
So that is why he says the way that you come into an awareness of the Soul realm is through impersonalizing and nothingizing. So there’s two parts. He always says he starts his meditations with God and he recognizes his oneness with God, and then he goes into that part of the meditation where he realizes the appearance, good or evil, is nothing – has no power and no life and no law. He said that dozens of times, hundreds of times, maybe thousands. And then he rests. He rests in the Word and he waits in silence until he feels that movement – or expressed another way – until he comes into the awareness of Soul. Because in the awareness of Soul, then the mental malpractice is nothing. It’s dissolved. The light shines and the darkness disappears. Nobody knows where the darkness goes because the darkness is not a thing. It’s a no-thing. But when the light shines in the awareness of the Soul, in that inner quickening movement, ascension above the mind, then the duality disappears. It dissolves.
- But wait! There’s still a fifth secret. Then there is another unknown that is responsible for world discord. The secret of harmony is not in using power, but in refraining from the use of power since Omnipotence recognizes no power to overcome or destroy. The recognition of nonpower establishes harmony in the human scene.
Which is the whole purpose of the meditation, because when you come to the awareness of Soul and you have that inner release, then – well, you’ve recognized the nonpower of your Soul. Again, he said here: The first glimpse into the heaven … here and now is the beginning of the ascension … and we behold … “many mansions” [or many levels] … in the awareness of Reality [or the Soul].
Now, I’m going to explain that release one time and then we’ll get back to the chapter called Awake. Now he says here: [Art of Spiritual Healing]
When you really begin to comprehend in healing you are not dealing with people, when you learn to eliminate them and their claims from your thought and in every instance deal with the root of the problem, which is the carnal mind, the arm of flesh, or any word you choose so long as it means nothingness, you will find how quickly you will be able to become consciously aware of your Soul, the Presence within you. This Presence cannot be felt until you are free of the barrier, and the barrier is the belief in two, in two powers or in something apart from God.
Now, the minute you have made the carnal mind a nothingness, no power, you no longer have two powers and you can do just what it says in Scripture: You can rest in his word. You can rest in this word waiting for the Spirit of the Lord God to be upon you, [which is a fancy way of saying waiting for the awareness of Soul], and when it comes, it breaks the hypnotism.
You see that? Once more:
If with every claim that comes to you you can set aside any thought of the person, his name or the claim and go back to some word or term which to you represents nothingness – not something to fight or even rise above – but something that’s just nothingness so that you have only one power, then you can sit in meditation and you will feel the descent of the Holy Ghost, which means the awareness – you’ll have the awareness of Soul. You will feel the peace that passes understanding. You will feel a divine Presence and a release from fear or discord. And again, the principle behind this process is that inasmuch as the activity of the human mind is the substance of hypnotism, when the human mind is not functioning, there’s no more hypnotism. When you experience this you will feel something which transcends the human dimension.
Do we see? It all is one big circle, isn’t it? He spent all these words to tell you you need to go from the mind and thinking thoughts, which is twoness, into an awareness of Soul and its many mansions, which is oneness. So getting back to this chapter Awake, and this may end up being two talks. We’ll see. He says – and this is important. I want to read this too.
Some become so frightened at the first glimpse of the Soul realm that they never go that way again.
And I can tell you that I had an experience that was frightening to the human mind, and in that experience I was almost completely dissolved. There was just a tiny little piece way back there saying, “I’m afraid,” and then the experience diminished. So he says:
Some become so frightened at the first glimpse of the Soul realm that [they never want to go that way again, or] they never go that way again. God is light, and to come face to face with that light is more blinding in its intensity than to look directly into the hot sun. So, if it has been frightening, it takes an adventurous spirit to make more than one attempt. It is not that God is frightening, but that the human senses are frightened by the unknown. [And actually] Actually there is nothing to fear.
And so I felt in that one intense meditation I had in Florida that I was going to be completely dissolved and dispersed somewhere in the Infinite, but the fear itself made the experience diminish and subside. Now he says here: It takes an adventurous spirit to make more than one attempt, and trust me, I have been launching out into the deep over and over and over for some almost – well, for 41 years [Now 48 years]. All right. So now do we see what we’re saying? All of this – it’s taken 40 minutes to simply prepare you for what we’re going to talk about, and that is that it’s absolutely necessary to die out of humanhood, out of the human sense of existence, out of the human mind, in order to begin to have these glimpses or this awareness of the Soul realm, of your Soul, of God, because God is your Soul. I am that I Am. I am your Soul. And in order to have glimpses, in order to begin the ascension into the Soul realm, it’s necessary to impersonalize this mental malpractice pumping into you as a human life and nothingize it by realizing in the presence of Soul it’s dissolved. Okay?
As a rule [he says], progress on the spiritual path is so gradual that the entire way is a joy. Here and there, there will be experiences that are momentarily frightening because you had perhaps expected something different. For example, you may have thought that every day would be a joyous experience, whereas [are you listening, my friends? – whereas] those periods are few, [and so there are few periods of joyous experience] and the periods of barrenness and emptiness and the feeling that you are separated from God are many.
Well, I’m sure glad to read that! (chuckles)
Actually, these [periods of barrenness] are more necessary to your spiritual unfoldment than sitting on “cloud nine,” because without that complete barrenness you are a vessel already full, and nothing new can enter. [You must] You have to lose your concepts of God and what you expect of God.
I wish I could use a title for a book Santa Claus God because that is what the majority of the concepts of God are. Be assured … no one can enter the realm of the Soul with … such [a] God in mind.
Yes, you have to leave all of the mental concepts to have a glimpse of the Soul realm. You cannot have a concept of God. You cannot have a synonym. Any concept in the mind on which you rely will keep you tethered to the mind, the very thing you have to ascend out of in order to rise into the Soul realm. Now just in case you forgot – well, I’ll think we’ll start the second talk there. So we’ll finish this here.
The reason why this is an uncomfortable talk is because we are saying that you have to lose every concept you have or have had of God. Even the concept of omnipresence. Even the concept of spirit. The concept of infinite invisible. Anything to which you can get a mental picture of or mental idea. All of that has to go. You have to face entering the Soul realm with no idea at all about what you’ll find. None. You must be completely dead in order to be born, and this takes place in a moment ye think not, because all these concepts are thoughts in that mind.
Hence, the reason for Joel’s insistence that meditation is the way. Meditation is the way. Meditation is the way. We hear that over and over, and we think that if we become quiet and we rehash and rehearse some truths in our mind that we’re meditating. Well, we’re not. We might be contemplating mentally. It might be a form of contemplation or contemplative meditation, but it’s not enough. It’s won’t produce any harmony, but it may calm us down. It may calm us down. It may slow the mind down, which is what he says in The Art of Meditation, and eventually thought will come to a stop. Now is when real meditation can take place, that of being a complete empty vessel. That means none of the human is there. There’s no one home.
There’s a vast empty nothingness and personal sense doesn’t want to go there. It does not want to die even for these few moments in meditation. You’ve noticed it yourself if you see how you’re as quiet as you can be and these thoughts go marching on. Remember, he says we do not fight these thoughts. That won’t help us. That’ll tether us to the mind, tie us to the mind, bind us. No, we have to learn to contemplate long enough to become quiet, to become still. To be that empty vessel waiting upon the Lord.
You cannot lift yourself into the Soul realm, but you can prepare yourself by your being with others on the spiritual path, by your reading inspirational literature which lifts you into periods of quiet and calmness, and by listening to a talk or a tape or a class. These are the ways that you become still, but they’re not enough. No. You must launch out into that deep, empty, infinite ocean of nothingness, not knowing what you’ll find, and allow It, your Soul, God Itself to reveal Itself.
This is meditation, and in the presence of Soul awareness, the good and the evil of appearances in the mind dissolve. Or put it this way – in your awareness of Soul, mind is dissolved. In the shining of the light, the darkness disappears. It’s all one, and it is all leading to that transformation from human to Soul.
Once you learn to – well, I believe we’ll leave that for talk number two. This is talk one, the first half of the Introduction, Awake, from the book Man Was Not Born to Cry. Perhaps we are centered inside ourselves now and calm enough and quiet enough to have a meditation before part two. So I suggest you have that period of silence now inside of yourself and invite the Soul to speak. Invite the Soul to reveal Itself. Invite the Soul to take over, he says in the Beyond Words and Thoughts. Invite the Soul to take over.
And let us be still now for a moment.
Okay. We will wrap this up by reading this. I want you to understand this clearly, so we’ll wrap this up, this first part, by reading this one more time from the Hotel Wellington in New York by Joel, five secrets.
- All evil has its rise in the universal belief in two powers. This belief operating as a universal mental malpractice. This we sum up as the activity of the carnal or mortal mind originally called devil or Satan.
- This malpractice has no power in and of itself beyond that of tempter, but operates as power where not known or understood.
- Furthermore, the human scene, good or evil, is the product of this universal malpractice or carnal mind and has no contact with God and is not under the law of God.
- Harmony of a permanent nature can only be attained as the spiritual Self or Soul realm is realized through impersonalization and nothingizing of the carnal mind.
- There is another unknown that is responsible for world discord. The secret of harmony is not in using power, but in refraining from the use of power since omnipotence recognizes no power to overcome or destroy. The recognition of nonpower establishes harmony in the human scene.
All right. Take a walk. Have a stretch. Take a break. Have a silence, and we’ll meet you back here for part two. And as always, thank you.